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Greetings everyone,
It is commonly believed that the Book of the Law ("Liber AL vel Legis") was dictated to Crowley by a praeter-human intelligence called Aiwass. Crowley himself thought – according to chapter 7 of "The Equinox of the Gods" – that Aiwass was not only is Holy Guardian Angel (H.G.A.) but also a man like him. This is very interesting, and the Illuminati Cipher shows that Aiwass wasn't "a man like Crowley" but, in fact, Crowley himself. This, of course, would mean that Liber AL wasn't transmitted by any praeter-human intelligence whatsoever, but created by Aleister Crowley alone, the Great Wild Beast 666. Let's have a look at the following correspondences:
(All values are calculated with the Cipher of the Illuminati, unless stated otherwise)
-> Aiwass = 85 = Baphomet (one of Crowley's mottos) = Sorath (the Spirit of the Sun whose number is 666, in the Qabalah);
This shows the equivalence between Aiwass, Baphomet (Crowley), and Sorath (the Beast 666), but of course it doesn't prove anything. It's just a numerical correspondence based on one single system of English Gematria, and it could be discarded by anyone as a mere coincidence. However, there is one verse of Liber AL that I think could confirm this hypothesis. In AL I:7, you can read:
AL I:7 - "Behold! it is revealed by Aiwass the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat."
So 'Aiwass' is the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat (that is, Harpocrates, the egyptian child god that represents Silence). This identification of Aiwass (= Baphomet / Sorath / Beast 666) with the "minister of Hoor-paar-kraat" could throw some light on the true identity of Aiwass, and indeed it does!
-> Minister of Hoor-paar-kraat = 274 = Edward Alexander Crowley (Crowley's birth name)
This means that not only can Aiwass be identified with Crowley and The Beast 666, but his office as "minister of Hoor-paar-kraat" confirms this identification. The Book of the Law was dictated by Aiwass, who was Crowley himself!
The name Hoor-paar-kraat is interesting too because it sums 169 (13x13) and one could conclude that the "Hundred and Sixty-Nine Cries of Adoration and the Unity thereof" in Liber CMLXIII ["The Treasure House of Images"] were directed to Hoor-paar-kraat himself! Also, 169 is the value of "Eye in the Pyramid", "Eye in the Triangle", "Annuit Coeptis" and "E Pluribus Unum" (these last two can be seen in the Great Seal of the United States, in the 1 Dollar bill), and also, curiously enough, "Illuminati + Bavaria".
As a final note, here's some correspondences for the number 93 (value of Θελημα / Thelema / "Will" & also Αγαπη / Agape / "Love" in Greek):
-> 93 = "True Will" = "Divine Self" = "Kristos" = "Sun + Moon" = "Circle + Dot" = "Pineal Eye" = "Third Eye"
(Note the references and multiple correspondences between the True Will, Hoor-Paar-Kraat, the Eye in the Pyramid/Triangle, and the Pineal/Third Eye)
I seriously doubt these are just innocent coincidences... ;)
Best regards,
Luís (Alektryon)
Official blog:
illuminaticiphers.blogspot.com
It is commonly believed that the Book of the Law ("Liber AL vel Legis") was dictated to Crowley by a praeter-human intelligence called Aiwass. Crowley himself thought – according to chapter 7 of "The Equinox of the Gods" – that Aiwass was not only is Holy Guardian Angel (H.G.A.) but also a man like him. This is very interesting, and the Illuminati Cipher shows that Aiwass wasn't "a man like Crowley" but, in fact, Crowley himself. This, of course, would mean that Liber AL wasn't transmitted by any praeter-human intelligence whatsoever, but created by Aleister Crowley alone, the Great Wild Beast 666. Let's have a look at the following correspondences:
(All values are calculated with the Cipher of the Illuminati, unless stated otherwise)
-> Aiwass = 85 = Baphomet (one of Crowley's mottos) = Sorath (the Spirit of the Sun whose number is 666, in the Qabalah);
This shows the equivalence between Aiwass, Baphomet (Crowley), and Sorath (the Beast 666), but of course it doesn't prove anything. It's just a numerical correspondence based on one single system of English Gematria, and it could be discarded by anyone as a mere coincidence. However, there is one verse of Liber AL that I think could confirm this hypothesis. In AL I:7, you can read:
AL I:7 - "Behold! it is revealed by Aiwass the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat."
So 'Aiwass' is the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat (that is, Harpocrates, the egyptian child god that represents Silence). This identification of Aiwass (= Baphomet / Sorath / Beast 666) with the "minister of Hoor-paar-kraat" could throw some light on the true identity of Aiwass, and indeed it does!
-> Minister of Hoor-paar-kraat = 274 = Edward Alexander Crowley (Crowley's birth name)
This means that not only can Aiwass be identified with Crowley and The Beast 666, but his office as "minister of Hoor-paar-kraat" confirms this identification. The Book of the Law was dictated by Aiwass, who was Crowley himself!
The name Hoor-paar-kraat is interesting too because it sums 169 (13x13) and one could conclude that the "Hundred and Sixty-Nine Cries of Adoration and the Unity thereof" in Liber CMLXIII ["The Treasure House of Images"] were directed to Hoor-paar-kraat himself! Also, 169 is the value of "Eye in the Pyramid", "Eye in the Triangle", "Annuit Coeptis" and "E Pluribus Unum" (these last two can be seen in the Great Seal of the United States, in the 1 Dollar bill), and also, curiously enough, "Illuminati + Bavaria".
As a final note, here's some correspondences for the number 93 (value of Θελημα / Thelema / "Will" & also Αγαπη / Agape / "Love" in Greek):
-> 93 = "True Will" = "Divine Self" = "Kristos" = "Sun + Moon" = "Circle + Dot" = "Pineal Eye" = "Third Eye"
(Note the references and multiple correspondences between the True Will, Hoor-Paar-Kraat, the Eye in the Pyramid/Triangle, and the Pineal/Third Eye)
I seriously doubt these are just innocent coincidences... ;)
Best regards,
Luís (Alektryon)
Official blog:
illuminaticiphers.blogspot.com
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Re: Aiwass - An alias for Crowley?
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 10:01 AMQuestion'
How is 93 True Will ?
I believe someone is grabbing at straws :)
Love & Light
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Aiwass is H.G.A
What is this Illuminati Cipher ?
In my ignorance I see Crowley gave the keys to his work in his work'
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Re: Aiwass - An alias for Crowley?
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 10:55 AMNobu,
If you have read my other topic "Liber AL vel Legis and the Illuminati Cipher" [ oto.tribe.net/thread/cfe5...e5dc63469cd7 ], you already know all the answers to your questions. :P
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Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 12:18 PMI would say "True Will" is 74'
Agape
93'93'93
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mmmh yes I read it' I still say clutching at straws'
This cypher was put together after Crowley's work was finished ???
The cypher has no thing to do with Liber AL vel Legis' as far as I can see!
Bliss!
All numbers are infinite'
Aum!
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 12:39 PMit sounds as if, you are just not very familiar with how one speaks after performing the holy guardian angel ritual. A magical motto applies to every and all grades of adeptship in the silver star. And while you all share lunchboxes, the silver star and the oto are not the same things.
so does it make a difference to you? whats real - crowley or aivass? do you leave the book of the law in distaste if you think it was crowleys ego complex, rather than another entity complex? do you have much experience with entities that have been earthed into flesh? Branches outside of real branch of the Typhonian OTO, have very little, if any, real experience with the vehicles of manifested will and word. -
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Sun, September 13, 2009 - 2:11 PMOk' I just looked at this cypher' it is a mixed up bunch of non-sence as far as I can see' I could be in-correct' but' it no fits with
Aum Ha
So I say it is digging in the dark'
Why would you require another cypher to open the Book of the Law' as of when all the instructions are in the book in the first place ???
Square peg in a round Whole!
Illuminati ???
If it was illuminating' it would open the Book of Law'
Oh my
If you look on the internet at folk's answers to a simple riddle'
The mind boggles'
EQ
Bliss!
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Sun, September 13, 2009 - 2:31 PMhee hee, look in Liber Lapis to see the sigil that says 'suck the word', !! haha. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 3:53 PMThou art a little white rabbit in the burrow Night.
hehehe
just to throw a curve ball'
"Suck the word" Lovit' haha !!
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 5:39 PMPersonally, i think that if people got Liber Lapis right, they would understand The Book Of The Law in a different light. I highly reccomend reading all of the books brought together as "The Holy Books Of Thelema", 1983, Samuel Weiser.
And, people base alot of what they know of uncle al, from the most available of information. There are very many unpublished for the outer world, works of aleister. Few, if hardly any, make any point of trying to get a comprehension of what magic the venerable ol beast was practicing his last two years of life. Alot of that holds the key to AL.
but it does kinda do away with the dues and fees the oto in america is fond of charging. magic school. When his last instructions were not followed by the successor to the order, the order effectively switched locations of the Mother House, and america was largely cut off from the older and more powerful initiations, if they were received thru the caliph in california.
thankfully, the Typhonian and Haitian branches have some accessibility here in the states, so some of the older, and much better information is slowly leaking into being accessible. america would a in a lodge blight and drought season if it weren't for some of those sneaky typhonians, with the real deal in the cup.
-if ya follow me, so to speak. oh nobu, my snotty local OTO monitor has been VERY displeased lately. Like he understood a typhonian to start with. the funny little 'wiggle wiggle' to the aura, and the condesending snobbery. His mind is eroded from way too much lsd. I may have to punish him if he doesn't cease in his little monitoring project. Course, im thinking he is still probably running around in his majik robes. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 5:42 PMLiber Al was written in 'white heat' as crowley put it - anything he wrote or channelled, that is a publication in 'class A' - is to be considered divine and worthy of study, in the same serious class as The Book of The Law. So, if one doesn't get AL, go study ALL the OTHER publications in class A. They all give keys, hints and tools for study of Liber AL. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 6:39 PMNot Isis my mother, nor Osiris my self; but the incestuous Horus given over to Typhon, so may I be!
Bliss!
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Course, im thinking he is still probably running around in his majik robes.
Haha!! Haha!! Haha!!
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Mon, September 14, 2009 - 12:05 PMNobu:
Sorry mate, but I won't reply to any of your messages.
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 12:36 PMAiwass is H.G.A. this is a simple fact of the LAW'
Brother' only misterious to someone who no understands the LAW' or any of Crowleys works'
I just dipped the Books in Wine and Drank the ink. :)
Nsala Malekun
Nobu Nganga +
Liber Liberi Vel Lapis Lazuli, Adumbratio Kabbalae
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 2:21 PMAwaiss was a man just like Crowley'
Nsala Malekun
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Mon, September 14, 2009 - 12:02 PMFlint:
«it sounds as if, you are just not very familiar with how one speaks after performing the holy guardian angel ritual. A magical motto applies to every and all grades of adeptship in the silver star.»
-> So what? Do you think that I *care* about that?
I'm not affiliated to any thelemic organization, nor do I wish to be, and I surely don't consider myself a thelemite.
«so does it make a difference to you? whats real - crowley or aivass? do you leave the book of the law in distaste if you think it was crowleys ego complex, rather than another entity complex?»
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 3:27 PMthen do tell, just how one speaks after HGA. In your image or the orders?
i count The Book Of The Law as a holy scripture.
gnostic ego inflation has produced some of the most transcendental and enlivening of spiritual texts and movements. Aivass, is a spiritual complex that has in the time since AC's time, also matured into something different than when he was a Holy Guardian Angel to crowley. As would have to be, to be both angel and herald of a new logo's.
i speak my experience as i have had it, not anyone elses. Religiously speaking, i am an animist, so the reliance on printed texts somewhat flavors my reactions to any printed matter, holy book or newspaper. One of the things AC mentioned, was the need to be able to fully memorize one's holy text, to apply it practically. The Book Of The Law easily fulfills this function. Concise, to the point, not wasting of space, and memorizable - making it, as we have seen, an excellent, if not somewhat overused, tool of debate and disernment, a tool of sorts, if you will.
Aivass has meta-leveled so much, from my observations, that what was once an angel, is now an sentient abstract force of the universe.
Having african practice as my root, we do not see all that big of a deal between the 'angel' and the 'horse'. When a sacred being is present in the flesh, it is the entity we seek to interact with. When the spirits do not ride one of their 'horses', the person in question is a regular, mere mortal. When the being is present, it presents proofs of its identity, dispenses what energy is needed, is regarded as incarnated and sacred. We can see when the horse is no longer being ridden. So i don't see any real functional difference between crowley and his angel, its fairly clear when one speaks and the others does not.
i don't actually really care if you have a motto or not. And, not being a thelemite from what you say, why in the world would a motto (formula) make sense, or be of use to you? of course it would make no difference. you are talking to people who are already IN the church, so its difficult to make out clearly what you say thru the walls. Why you would even have the question, evades me. but, who cares, right? If it doesn't mean anything to ya, then lets just talk about - popsickles. or whip-its. or fire spinning. i return you to your regularly scheduled reality. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 1:47 AM>No real functional difference between crowley and his angel'
Some simple passages of text say'
I am the Master: thou art the Holy Chosen One.
Thy death shall be the seal of the promise of our age long love. Come! lift up thine heart & rejoice! We are one; we are none.
But remember, o chosen one, to be me; to follow the love of Nu in the star-lit heaven;
Lift up thyself! for there is none like unto thee among men or among Gods!
Lift up thyself, o my prophet, thy stature shall surpass the stars.
They shall worship thy name, foursquare, mystic, wonderful, the number of the man; and the name of thy house 418.
So ok' open to my own interpretations there' through Aiwass being a Holy Guardian Angel to crowley'
No thing hidden' it is clear instruction'
Aivass has meta-leveled so much, from my observations, that what was once an angel, is now an sentient abstract force of the universe.
Exactly!
Remember'
Love is the LAW' Love under Will'
Anger of frustrations shall no open The Book Of The Law because it fulfills a very specific function'
Forget of what you think you know' ask of questions'
Listen very carefully and Be Observant to the Answers'
The Spirits speak very clearly' if you look & listen'
Tezcatlipoca perhaps you should take some further advice'
I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this.
Just one tiny little jem of wondrous stunning beauty'
Pan! Pan! Io Pan! Io Pan!
All Numbers are Infinite!
All Words are Sacred!
Aum Ha
Take of Righteousness' Command and Order of your Space!
Nobu Nganga +
You see Tezcatlipoca' righteousness and anger are serious tools of Sorcery'
Lovely day
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 9:10 AMFlint:
«i count The Book Of The Law as a holy scripture.»
-> I don't accept any text or collection of texts as holy scripture, save only some *rare* exceptions. And Liber AL vel Legis is not one of them.
«i don't actually really care if you have a motto or not. And, not being a thelemite from what you say, why in the world would a motto (formula) make sense, or be of use to you?»
-> And why should I have a motto? lol. Did I ever say that?
I have nicknames. Nicknames are not mottos. It's that simple.
«If it doesn't mean anything to ya, then lets just talk about - popsickles. or whip-its. or fire spinning.»
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Tue, September 15, 2009 - 9:55 AMwell then junior, it looks like your post is then just a masturabatory exercise for yourself then. have a great fire spinning day. You certainly qualify for motta's OTO. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 10:46 AM> I don't accept any text or collection of texts as holy scripture, save only some *rare* exceptions. And Liber AL vel Legis is not one of them.
And that is of why you have no understanding' And look for infinite answers'
Question'
Why bother even studying it as of when it holds no self gnosis for you ?
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:20 PMFlint:
Thanks for your sympathy, but I don't wish to qualify for Motta's OTO. Nor even yours, or any other. ;)
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Tue, September 15, 2009 - 2:35 PMyou are so welcome. :)
i don't run an OTO branch, so ya couldn't join mine. :)
cheers,
Flint
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 9:26 AMDo what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
"You certainly qualify for motta's OTO. "
aw, come on, flint! we're nice, sincere folks! please, you of all people, don't buy into the hype.
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 9:51 AM
Does that mean you are a 'motta-ite'?
as for nice and sincere, long distance oto'ers are somewhat nice. The local branch sucks big time with attitude, and im not impressed with their armchair occultism. Now that does not apply to everyone, but it sure does for local. -
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 10:08 AMDo what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
*laugh* if you mean, am i a member of his OTO and/or A.'.A.'. lineage, the answer is yes on both counts. but motta-ite sounds so...
...so Sordid! like i get up to uber-kink with dictionary editors or something.
people hear the stories about us, the insularism, the homophobia, the racism... none of it has any resemblance to the reality. we're really not very much at all what people seem to think we're like.
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Wed, September 16, 2009 - 10:26 AMI was a member when i was in my teens and early year or two of my twenties. I have never been comfortable with any branch save kenneth grants, and franco-haitian line. And in the intervening years, i have met plenty of real OTO folks. And they are very insular, and homophobic depends on the branch. To be very honest, the local catina is filled with silly, or intellectual boors. Too much acid, me thinks. (yes, i do know)
Anyways, i love the oto, just not very many people in it. The same is said of the catholic church. And honestly, (my opinion) it went fast downhill when the catholic gnostic church became more integrated and given more emphasis than predesessors did. The Gnostic church has screwed up way too much within the oto.
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Wed, September 16, 2009 - 10:28 AMi won't comment further on motta's lineage, out of respect to you.
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 11:42 AMDo what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
fortunately, the so-called gnostic catholic church is not associated with us in any way. i like liber XV for what it is, but i don't find it appropriate as a ritual for a center of power. history shows in a rather stark manner what happens when it's used that way.
my experience with the caliphate conforms with yours - a large part of the reason i got the heck out of there was the virulent transphobia in the oasis i'd been a member of. this was in my early twenties, before i transitioned, and was a Real Eye-Opener for me. it was shocking, really, and showed the folks in charge had no idea what was going on in their own symbolism.
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 11:56 AMAh, i understand where you are coming from better, thank you. unfortunately, the gnostic church is firmly ensconced this part of the country. I see where you are coming from too, i would imagine transgender to get an even harder time than gay. The Typhonian OTO is responsible in my later work now, in voudon and palo. Thats also why i am fond of the Haitian order - it incorporates both Voudon and the 93 current.
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Re: Aiwass is H.G.A.
Mon, September 21, 2009 - 5:14 AMLiber 333
THE CRY OF THE HAWK
Hoor hath a secret fourfold name: it is Do What
Thou Wilt.
Four Words: Naught' One' Many' All'
Thou Child!
Thy Name is holy.
Thy Kingdom is come.
Thy Will is done.
Here is the Bread.
Here is the Blood.
Bring us through Temptation!
Deliver us from Good and Evil!
That Mine as Thine be the Crown of the Kingdom,
even now.
ABRAHADABRA.
These ten words are four, the Name of the One.
1+2+3+4= Ten Sephirot'
All answers are given'
That Mine as Thine be the Crown of the Kingdom,
even now.
ABRAHADABRA.
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Do What Thou Wilt
He himself is One'
Horus which is fourfold'
CAVIAR
The Word was uttered: the One exploded into one
thousand million worlds.
Each world contained a thousand million spheres.
Each sphere contained a thousand million planes.
Each plane contained a thousand million stars.
Each star contained a many thousand million things.
Of these the reasoner took six, and, preening, said:
This is the One and the All.
These six the Adept harmonised, and said: This is
the Heart of the One and the All.
These six were destroyed by the Master of the
Temple; and he spake not.
The Ash thereof was burnt up by the Magus into
The Word.
Of all this did the Ipsissimus know Nothing.
EQ!!
Nsala Malekun
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Bliss!
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Re: Aiwass - An alias for Crowley?
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 2:20 AMI seriously doubt these are just innocent coincidences... ;)
Seriously doubt all you like'
As already stated'
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle'
True Will 74'
And' just to follow form'
93
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Exorcise your Own True Will +
Problem with your post Tezc is you no posed any questions of your own you followed anothers mistakes
